Little different than the Gibson thread...
This be what I need...
TUBE. 20 or less watts. 10 is better since I figure it will be class A and loud.
Tone: Marshall 1987X/59SLP/800 series NOT...ABSOLUTELY NOT VOX-ish like most class A EL84 amps (cool tone, but I want Marshall). 1974X tones are OK too as they are a bit more Marshally than Vox-y. Just not that Matchless/Budda/Dr. Z type sound. I can't emphasize this point enough. It's gotta do MARSHALL..please
12quot; speaker combo or a small head that I can grab a 1x12 for.
Price: $800 or less (tough part I know)
I don't care about cleans or onboard reverb or FX loops. This is simply something I'd run into an attentuator for late night practice and crank out when playing with friends (my neighbors are not happy with the Rivera). I'd use a goose for leads/more gain if necc.
I'm thinkin a Fargen Bastage? (GAWD I just love saying that....you fargen icehole! this is fargen war!)
Scott...how about your Celtics? (I honestly haven't followed much on your amp threads...sorry )
Or send Trace at Voodoo a Blues Junior?
Have you checked out the THD Univalve? I tried one and liked it, but it was just in a store...
Yeeesh....apparently no-one does
TGB, I actually have played one of those. It didn't really sound Marshally at all to me...kind of a very generic hi gain tone (though I don't know what tube it had in it, and didnt think to look at the time).Also the built in attentuator sucks major tone just like my powerbrake.
BUMP..c'mom someone has to have an idea...
maybe the Bastage is the way to go...with a good goose...soundclips rock, and I've played the mini plex which rawks HARD.
I'd say definitely hold out and see what scott has up for offer! I wish I had the money to get an amp from him. But I'm already swimming in gear and am way too attached to get rid of any of it at the moment, even for such an incredible amp as his
Bumpity for Scott
Awww c'mon....somebody has to have some kind of idea...OK..bump price to a grand..that help?
Well, you could just step up and go with a large JTM45 head with EL34's in it. That'll give you a Marshall tone and can fit it around the 800 price point. Wattage won't matter much if you're using an attenuator anyway. Just make sure it's a good attenuator. Stevo had a WEber Mass at teh UGD jam and it worked very well.
Silvertone 1483 (bass) is one hell of a 20 watt monster. Will definately get you some JTM45/Bassman tones. More so than the more popular Silvertone 1484 Twin Twelve, which is a bit more compressed sounding. If you hit my link listen to Fat JoJo that is entirely 1483 the middle solo section is where the amp is wide open.. Traynor Bassmate 6V6 version or an EL84 ( very 1974 like) version with a couple upped cap values. I have a sample of that as well on my MP3 page titled Bassmate and the Thang. Either head is in the 200-300 range, the Traynors have better iron for sure but both scream with the best of em.
Here is the link to my MP3 page from : localhost/www.soundclick.com/pro/defaul...amp;content=music
Originally Posted by Scott_FWell, you could just step up and go with a large JTM45 head with EL34's in it. That'll give you a Marshall tone and can fit it around the 800 price point. Wattage won't matter much if you're using an attenuator anyway. Just make sure it's a good attenuator. Stevo had a WEber Mass at teh UGD jam and it worked very well.
Thanks for the advice Scott. I think the key will be a *good* attentuator if I went that way...I have a powerbrake and it's not so good. I tried a Hotplate on my exact Rivera amp at a store, and it wasn't so great either on the lower settings I'd need for home at night......which surprised me as the HotPlate gets good reviews...witha little bit of attentuation it was pretty nice, but then it was still too loud. Maybe I should just try a Mass on the Rivera...but don't know anyone locally who has them.
My line of thinking was if I grab a lower wattage combo, I'd be able to run it totally quot;hotquot; but would not have to attentuate it down as much as I would a 40 watter, thus giving me better(truer) tone. And 20 watts is plenty loud for jamming out with friends.
Originally Posted by kevlar3000Silvertone 1483 (bass) is one hell of a 20 watt monster. Will definately get you some JTM45/Bassman tones. More so than the more popular Silvertone 1484 Twin Twelve, which is a bit more compressed sounding. If you hit my link listen to Fat JoJo that is entirely 1483 the middle solo section is where the amp is wide open.. Traynor Bassmate 6V6 version or an EL84 ( very 1974 like) version with a couple upped cap values. I have a sample of that as well on my MP3 page titled Bassmate and the Thang. Either head is in the 200-300 range, the Traynors have better iron for sure but both scream with the best of em.
Here is the link to my MP3 page from : localhost/check these out tonite Kev as my speakers at work $uck. I'm really looking for a mid 70s NMV or JMP/800 MV type sound vs. the JTM, but with the right pedal..who knows?
Originally Posted by JeffBI'll check these out tonite Kev as my speakers at work $uck. I'm really looking for a mid 70s NMV or JMP/800 MV type sound vs. the JTM, but with the right pedal..who knows?
With the SS rectifier the Traynor is very close, even with the tube rectified 1483 it still has really nice jump to the note. Your not gonna get 800 tones from em, they are much more open sounding and have more roar than crunch. I was amazed at the balls these low watters have. I use a SD booster with them for leads and there is serious wow with em. I would imagine with a DOD you would be right there on the 800 side of the coin.
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